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Date/TimeFromToReply ToNumberSee AlsoSubject
01 Jul 89 10:40:5SysopLen Rubin-358New Modem
01 Jul 89 13:09:3Steven ZinkVictor Roberts-48Z88 and VAX
01 Jul 89 13:10:5Steven ZinkAll-5-spreadsheet to ibm
01 Jul 89 14:10:4Guy SmithAll-69Good Z88 Review
01 Jul 89 14:20:4Guy SmithAll-7-Imagewriters anyone?
01 Jul 89 19:57:3SysopSteven Zink4819VAX & Z88
01 Jul 89 19:59:1SysopGuy Smith6912Outliner
02 Jul 89 01:15:3Len RubinAll-1011Online Services
02 Jul 89 13:50:5SysopLen Rubin101113OnLine Services
03 Jul 89 00:26:5Curtis ClaarGuy Smith91220containers
03 Jul 89 00:32:1Curtis ClaarLen Rubin111324Source
03 Jul 89 00:34:4Curtis ClaarAll-14-LA Visit
03 Jul 89 01:14:3Patrick EllisonAll-15-bbs
03 Jul 89 15:59:1Gerald LindsaySysop-17-Thanks
03 Jul 89 17:01:3Nick DewolfSysop-18-Thanks.
03 Jul 89 17:28:5Victor RobertsSteven Zink819-Z88 and VAX
03 Jul 89 17:30:0Victor RobertsGuy Smith122022Containers
03 Jul 89 23:51:3Chris FennGuy Smith202223Cases
04 Jul 89 14:45:3Bryant PattenGuy Smith222332Outline Program
04 Jul 89 14:49:4Bryant PattenLen Rubin132438Online Services
04 Jul 89 14:56:1Bryant PattenAll-2527Outliner & Spellchecker
04 Jul 89 15:03:2Gerald LindsayAll-2628TDD
04 Jul 89 15:31:4SysopBryant Patten2527-outliner + Speller
04 Jul 89 15:33:3SysopGerald Lindsay2628-TDD
04 Jul 89 16:08:5SysopAll-29-June Messages
04 Jul 89 16:28:0Len RubinPhil-30-Comm Questions etc.
04 Jul 89 19:10:3Chris FennAll-31-Memories
05 Jul 89 01:12:1Curtis ClaarChris Fenn2332-Cambridge cases
06 Jul 89 10:46:4Tom RaffaeleAll-33-BBS
07 Jul 89 09:25:3Tom RaffaeleAll-36-Basic Problem
07 Jul 89 16:43:4Rick StewartAll-3756Copy and Paste
08 Jul 89 16:28:2George BondLen Rubin2438-on-line services/BIX
08 Jul 89 17:21:2Gerald LindsayAll-39-Z-88 BBS
08 Jul 89 18:54:2Chuck PlattSysop-4042z88com
08 Jul 89 19:47:2SysopChuck Platt4042-z88com
09 Jul 89 08:42:3Mark StueberAll-44-Z88 PRICE BREAK
13 Jul 89 03:48:3Tim WoodsAll-45-free offer
14 Jul 89 11:11:2Chuck PlattAll-4647eprom erasing
14 Jul 89 18:51:4Gerald LindsayChuck Platt464748EPROM Eraser
15 Jul 89 04:51:4Victor RobertsChuck Platt474849EPROM erasing
15 Jul 89 04:57:3Victor RobertsGerald Lindsay484951EPROM erasing with sunlight
15 Jul 89 07:26:2Gerald LindsayVictor Roberts-5052EPROM erasing
15 Jul 89 15:52:5Chuck PlattVictor Roberts495157eproms
16 Jul 89 05:13:1Victor RobertsGerald Lindsay5052-EPROM erasing
16 Jul 89 13:42:5Richard HawAll-5455eproms
16 Jul 89 19:27:1SysopRichard Haw5455-Eproms
16 Jul 89 21:47:4Len RubinRick Stewart375695"cut" and "paste"
16 Jul 89 21:49:5Len RubinChuck Platt5157-EPROM erasing
17 Jul 89 18:39:1Phill JacksonLen Rubin35859Worldport
17 Jul 89 19:38:0SysopPhill Jackson585961Z88 with Mac Printers
18 Jul 89 18:48:3Victor RobertsPhill Jackson596162Worldport
19 Jul 89 16:04:4Phill JacksonSysop616263Imagewriter
19 Jul 89 16:11:3Phill JacksonVictor Roberts626364Cable
19 Jul 89 17:25:1SysopPhill Jackson6364-W'Port cable
19 Jul 89 17:27:2SysopHarvey Michels-65-Download Problem
19 Jul 89 21:47:2Robert MorganAll-66-Letter to Dvorak's latest blast
20 Jul 89 21:02:0SysopAll-67-Outliner for Z88
21 Jul 89 11:28:2Tom JohnsonAll-68-4 sale
21 Jul 89 17:06:2Michael KatzPhil Wheeler-6970downloading program files
22 Jul 89 06:07:0SysopMichael Katz697071Modem Cables
22 Jul 89 06:09:4SysopMichael Katz707172Pile*Line
22 Jul 89 12:36:5Guy SmithSysop717274Z88's at $299
22 Jul 89 22:31:1SysopAll-76-Review of ThinkZ
23 Jul 89 05:07:5Dave BennettAll-7778Z88 - QL
23 Jul 89 07:50:0SysopDave Bennett7778-QL to Z88
23 Jul 89 13:46:3Bryant PattenAll-8085Screen Capture CLI
24 Jul 89 13:40:2Shapiro EzraAll-83-Z-88 and accessories for sale
24 Jul 89 16:15:1David ZundelAll-84-Z88 users in Portland OR
28 Jul 89 19:30:0Curtis ClaarBryant Patten8085-CLI probs
28 Jul 89 19:36:4Curtis ClaarDave Bennett-86-QL/Z88
28 Jul 89 19:39:2Curtis ClaarSysop-8791cover
29 Jul 89 00:26:4David ZundelMo Budlong-8889FORTH
29 Jul 89 01:07:4SysopCurtis Claar8791101Covers
29 Jul 89 01:13:3SysopDavid Zundel-92-PC Pursuit
29 Jul 89 01:15:2SysopDavid Zundel-93-RAM Space
29 Jul 89 13:41:1SysopAll-94-New Richard Haw Offerings
30 Jul 89 00:16:4Rick StewartLen Rubin569596Thanks
30 Jul 89 04:35:0David ZundelSysop-99108The BBS
30 Jul 89 07:40:1Dave BennettAll-100103Z88 - QL
31 Jul 89 01:32:5Curtis ClaarSysop91101109covers
31 Jul 89 01:40:5Curtis ClaarDave Bennett100103-QL--Z**
31 Jul 89 01:48:0Curtis ClaarDavid Zundel-104105CLI "tricks"
31 Jul 89 02:03:3David ZundelCurtis Claar104105115CLI
31 Jul 89 06:10:5SysopDavid Zundel98107-CLI
31 Jul 89 06:13:0SysopDavid Zundel99108124Directories
31 Jul 89 06:14:4SysopCurtis Claar101109-Cover
1 Jul 89 16:09:55Rick StewartAll-110120Outliner Super Rom
1 Jul 89 16:21:58Rick StewartAll-111121Basic downloads
1 Jul 89 18:47:51Gerald LindsayAll-112116New BBS
1 Jul 89 20:54:06Dave BennettCurtis & Phil-113117Z88 QL
1 Jul 89 22:06:54Len RubinAll-114-"C"
1 Jul 89 23:36:41Curtis ClaarGerald Lindsay112116-BBS
1 Jul 89 23:38:55Curtis ClaarDave Bennett113117-QL Cable
1 Jul 89 23:42:53Curtis ClaarRick Stewart-118122BAD PROGRAM
1 Jul 89 23:53:51Curtis ClaarDave Bennett-119-Mdv_ emulation

ARCHIVED BBS MESSAGES -- JULY 1989
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#3 37 01 Jul 89 10:40:50 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Len Rubin
SEE ALSO #58
Subj: New Modem

Sounds good, Len. Yeah -- those are very nice units. I've got the 1200 baud
unit -- but since I use it only when traveling, that's no problem (have a 2400
baud internal in my work computer and the Expert 24e on this system).

Phil




 #4 38 01 Jul 89 13:09:39 (RECV'D)
From: Steven Zink
To: Victor Roberts
SEE ALSO #8
Subj: Z88 and VAX

Thanks for all of your help on the VAX. I think you have solved the problem.
It is not elegant, but it works and that is what counts. Thanks again.




 #5 35 01 Jul 89 13:10:53
From: Steven Zink
To: All
Subj: spreadsheet to ibm

This should be easy. I used the Z88 PipeDream for a spreadsheet for expenses
on a recent trip. When I returned home I tried to upload the spreadsheet into
my word processing program (WordPerfect) in the usual manner. I cannot get
just what appears on the screen in PipeDream's spreadsheet. In other words,
when I transfer the file I end up seeing all of the formula and not the
resulting values. I don't want to transfer a working spreadsheet, I just want
to transfer what would appear on the screen in PipeDream. Anyone have any
ideas?




 #6 40 01 Jul 89 14:10:48
From: Guy Smith
To: All
SEE ALSO #9
Subj: Good Z88 Review

This weeks MacWeek Magazine has a very nice review of the Z88 which is
probably the best I've read so far. Apparently the people at Macweek actually
use Z88's to do REAL WORK (can you imagine that). In fact the author wrote the
article on a Z88.
I'm sorry that I can't give you the vol. or issue number, but it's the last
one I've received as of 7/1/89.
By the way, has anyone heard any more about the outlining program that's
supposed to be available from the UK?
Also, I use rechargable ni-cads with no problem...I just keep a few charging
all the time at the house and office.
Another general question...supposedly there is a "hard cover" for the Zed
which is supposed to be available soon...What other "containers" have the rest
of you used to haul around your Zed, and with what kinds of results?
s




 #7 37 01 Jul 89 14:20:49
From: Guy Smith
To: All
Subj: Imagewriters anyone?

I'm curious if anyone has tried using the Apple Imagewriter for printing from
the Z88. I'd like to use mine to print but need info on settings, cable
configurations, etc.
Thanks, Guy




 #8 34 01 Jul 89 19:57:31 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Steven Zink
REPLY TO #4 SEE ALSO #19
Subj: VAX & Z88

Vic's still on vacation, I think; but he will be happy to hear that it's
working for you

Phil




 #9 35 01 Jul 89 19:59:11 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Guy Smith
REPLY TO #6 SEE ALSO #12
Subj: Outliner

The outliner was developed at last reports -- and was awaiting the printing of
the manuals when I called Tony Kaye at Wordmongers about 3 weeks ago. The
hard cover is available in U.K., but I have not found them available here yet.

The Outliner sounds a bit "exotic" from Tony's description -- but I will buy
one ASAP and provide a full review here (I'm a dyed-in-the-wool outliner
user!). Also have a cover on order, when they materialize on these shores.

Phil




 #10 35 02 Jul 89 01:15:33
From: Len Rubin
To: All
SEE ALSO #11
Subj: Online Services

I'm curious about the relative merits of the various commercial online
services, such as GEnie, The Source, Compuserve, etc. It seems even
more confusing than trying to compare and evaluate the competing long
distance carriers! I should say that I have no need of invester
services, business news, and such. I don't yet own a PC or Mac, and so
users' forums for various brands would not yet concern me--with the
exception, of course, of my trusty "Z". I am intrigued by the promise
of greater convenience, freedom, powerful resources, fun, networking,
etc. (you know, the old "better living through chemistry" stuff), and
am curious as to whether any of the various services deliver on this
promise for those not in the financial community.

Please mention favorite services/networks, features/benifits, as well
as what you consider misleading or of dubious value.

P.S. My concerns/interests include intentional communities, barter,
human-powered & alternative transportation/apropriate technology,
environmental action, organic farming, music, the transformation
of human culture through an across-the-board, public, global
ongoing forum committed to rigorous inquiry, creative
experimentation and courageous implementation of designs that
promote authentic, sustainable human well-being (and other
interesting shit.)





 #11 37 02 Jul 89 13:50:51 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Len Rubin
REPLY TO #10 SEE ALSO #13
Subj: OnLine Services

Without question, CompuServe is the biggest. I think it's also the best, for
general purposes. But there is not one modicum of Z88 support there. GEnie
does have Z88 support, but there is nothing there which is not here (and a
whole lot less there than here). GEnie is cheaper -- but hugely MORE
expensive if you want to use it in the daytime. And I find the message system
in CompuServe to be more friendly in its operating methods; GEnie's software
is not very "personal" (e.g., you address messages to "topics" not people, in
the BBS system -- and I find that awfully impersonal).

Phil




 #12 34 03 Jul 89 00:26:54 (RECV'D)
From: Curtis Claar
To: Guy Smith
REPLY TO #9 SEE ALSO #20
Subj: containers

I looked long and hard for a cassette case that was just big enough fo rthe
Z88 -- most are too long and too short or similar. I finally found one at
Kmart and it even had a pocket. I yanked the inside plastic divider out and
then stuck some foam in it with a cutout for the Z88. This works, but it's not
too hot if you want to carry more than one or two cables and batteries. (BTW:
The first week I had this case, the zipper broke and I had to take it back to
Kmart. I threw the receipt away because "of course I'm not going to take this
back". The insides were torn out (and thrown away) -- and they still took it
back. What a country.)

[Curtis]




 #13 34 03 Jul 89 00:32:11 (RECV'D)
From: Curtis Claar
To: Len Rubin
REPLY TO #11 SEE ALSO #24
Subj: Source

I guess I'll throw in a couple of cents worth: Compuserve is buying Source and
then giving all the Source subscribers Compuserve memberships. So unless you
want to learn somethin and maybe like it and then have to change and relearn
everything, I wouldn't suggest Source.

[Curtis]




 #14 35 03 Jul 89 00:34:49
From: Curtis Claar
To: All
Subj: LA Visit

Hey all you LAers. I'll be visiting the big town of LA the week of the
18th. If anyone would like to get together and talk computers or talk
anything else or provide me with a bed for a night or two, let me know.

[Curtis]




 #15 34 03 Jul 89 01:14:35
From: Patrick Ellison
To: All
Subj: bbs

---------------------------------
| 100+ Rbbs "The" 100/102/200 bbs |
| Sysop Patrick Ellison (703) |
| 300/1200/2400 525-1256 |
| Free access and 100 ONLY!!! |
| 5 Meg worth of files 24 Hours |
---------------------------------





 #17 35 03 Jul 89 15:59:18 (RECV'D)
From: Gerald Lindsay
To: Sysop
Subj: Thanks

Thanks for the access to the board, I have captured the messages on 1 and 3 to
file, for later perusal and downloaded a couple of files to see what's what.
I've decided to get a Z88, and have put my 100 up for sale. Is there any
support here on the east coast, such as any BBS's, if not a friend of mine
runs a Tandy 100 BBS, and I might try and talk him into supporting the Z88 (or
I might just start that BBS I've been talking about for so long, maybe).
Thanks again for the access, and sorry for tying up the board for so long.

*[+|> Gerald <|+]*




 #18 34 03 Jul 89 17:01:38 (RECV'D)
From: Nick Dewolf
To: Sysop
Subj: Thanks.

I cannot really thnk you enuff for the swell tips you gave me..
Spellmaster.... Toshiba 1000 for HEAVY work...
EXACTLY the help I needed.. One lil thing.. Cuzz
Pipedream is so 'Foreign', and the book weighs as much as the
computer.. could a .. mebbe 6 page.. 20K MAX .. Document on
Pipedream.. I might even burn into the EPROM.. I may write
one just for me.. but will be too terse for others.. I get
stuck about every 10 mins... and after 3 days.. still do!
lazy American I suppose...
Thanks again LOTTS..
Nick De Wolf.. Z88 fan to be!




 #19 34 03 Jul 89 17:28:56 (RECV'D)
From: Victor Roberts
To: Steven Zink
REPLY TO #8
Subj: Z88 and VAX

Glad to be of some help.

Vic




 #20 40 03 Jul 89 17:30:00 (RECV'D)
From: Victor Roberts
To: Guy Smith
REPLY TO #12 SEE ALSO #22
Subj: Containers

I have had very good results with the standard Z88 soft case sold by
Cambridge North America (I think.) When I first got my Z88 I found out that it
could be turned on only if the two shift keys were pressed when _no other_
keys were also being pressed. That is, if jammed into a briefcase with lots of
papers, the machine will (should) not turn on even if your papers are pressing
on the two shift keys, as long as they are also pressing on other keys. I haul
my Z88 around in a soft briefcase full of papers and other junk, and have had
only one time since I got the machine last December when I believe it _might_
have been turned on in the briefcase.

Regarding ni-cads, I seem to remember someone who was selling two half length
ni-cads and a holder, so five batteries could be used in a space designed for
four. Phil may have more info on this than I do. I always use alkaline
batteries, since I like the long life and the fact that they do not lose their
charge if I do not use the machine for a week or so.

A previous message mentioned running the batteries down so low that the
machine would not work, and not losing any files. I have do that, by mistake
twice in the past month. I tried to turn on the Z88, and the screen was dead
or just a bunch of lines----yet all the files were there when new batteries
were installed. I don't recommend this, but don't panic if you batteries do go
down. Do a quick change and then see if your files are OK.

Vic






 #22 37 03 Jul 89 23:51:31 (RECV'D)
From: Chris Fenn
To: Guy Smith
REPLY TO #20 SEE ALSO #23
Subj: Cases


I tote mine around in a black vinyl portfolio type thing, with real
neat simulated brass corners and no handle (didn't want one!). There's
room for the Z88 and plenty of papers. What's really neat is; I bought
it at Target on sale for half price (@ $8,I should have bought 2), and
the icing on the cake is that the mfg's trademark is "CAMBRIDGE"
embossed in gold under the main flap. I've never had that weird turn
itself on thing happen. To hit both shift keys at random, without
hitting any other key....hmmmm....





 #23 37 04 Jul 89 14:45:34 (RECV'D)
From: Bryant Patten
To: Guy Smith
REPLY TO #22 SEE ALSO #32
Subj: Outline Program

Outline Program??!! How reliable is this rumor (or rumour if from U.K.)?
Regarding containers for the Z88, I have been using a zip up notebook cover
and putting that into the free brief case that came with the Z88. It works
fine.



 #24 35 04 Jul 89 14:49:41 (RECV'D)
From: Bryant Patten
To: Len Rubin
REPLY TO #13 SEE ALSO #38
Subj: Online Services

I find myself using Compuserve simply because it is the largest. My favorite
use for it, particularly with the Z88 and a pocket modem is sending fax
message from my laptop. Following a suggestion I saw in MacUser, I used this
facility to get a print out of a Z88 file while I was on a business trip by
hooking the modem into the hotel phone and sending a fax message to the hotel
through Compuserve. Slick & fun!




 #25 35 04 Jul 89 14:56:17
From: Bryant Patten
To: All
SEE ALSO #27
Subj: Outliner & Spellchecker

Do you suppose we could pressure the powers that be to combine the U.S.
version of the spell checker and this new outliner onto one EPROM? With a
128K memory cartridge and a Z88-Maclink EPROM I am getting slot anxiety when I
see two more programs I would like to have. Doesn't Sharp sell some combined
EPROMs?




 #26 36 04 Jul 89 15:03:24
From: Gerald Lindsay
To: All
SEE ALSO #28
Subj: TDD

I'm selling my M100 and have a TDD II, and LapDos w/cable/adapter, should I
keep these for use with the Z88. I read there was a DOS available maybe, or do
you have to buy the whole package. I'd appreciate any input. BTW I'm ordering
the Z88 tomorrow, but I live in VA and it costs me 5% more cause I have to pay
sales tax if I buy from Sharps, I saw a message about J&R with an 800 # for
$399, I'll try that first I guess, then bite the bullet.

*[+|> Gerald <|+]*




 #27 32 04 Jul 89 15:31:42 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Bryant Patten
REPLY TO #25
Subj: outliner + Speller

Not real practical, Bryant -- unless the two programs come from the same
vendor. So far, the outliner developer does not have a spell checker in his
line.
`
Phil




 #28 34 04 Jul 89 15:33:33 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Gerald Lindsay
REPLY TO #26
Subj: TDD

On the DOS -- contact Terry Kepner at Portable 100. The DOS is his an Nuge's.

Phil




 #29 33 04 Jul 89 16:08:51
From: Sysop
To: All
Subj: June Messages

The June area 1 messages are now available for downloading from File Area 5 as
AREA1MSG.689.

This BBS is now six and a half months old -- and all general messages
deposited in ARea 1 are available in File Area 5 as ASCII files.

Phil




 #30 33 04 Jul 89 16:28:01
From: Len Rubin
To: Phil
Subj: Comm Questions etc.

Phil-I noticed that since I began using my new Worldport 2400 modem,
Z88COM hasn't been auto redialing on a busy signal! What might cause
this singular observed difference? Also, I've noticed that the LED
marked "HIGH SPEED" lights as soon as the modem is plugged into the
Z88, signifying that the Worldport is awake, and awaiting
"conversation". I have wondered if it might not be possible
(preferreable?) through alternate wiring or internal switch settings to
allow "Moe" to sleep until Z88COM (or Z-Term) requires its services.

Also, I recently wanted to move several files into a newly created
sub-directory, for convenience, and could not remember, nor could I
ascertain a way to "grab them" en masse, and move them. I can't
beleive there isn't some way to do that. I tried various experiments
using Copy from root and subdirectories, but could not figure out how
to do it, other than copying all the files into one big file--obviously
absurd! Please say the magic words if they exist.

A*L*S*O, I have inquired in the past about any knowledge of the printer
codes and wiring details to allow the use of the Z88 with
Apple Imagewriter printers. I noticed another inquiry of an
identical nature--anyone out there know anything about this?

I guess I shouldn't even frame a question regarding the
Laserwriter and PostScript!

-LBR

p.s. Thanks for the replies to my Online Services message.




 #31 28 04 Jul 89 19:10:31
From: Chris Fenn
To: All
Subj: Memories


While doing a little research at the library, I stumbled onto an old
article in "Business Week" Feb.27 89 in the "Developments to Watch"
column. Anamartic, a spinoff of Sinclair Research Ltd.(& Cambridge)
has been working with "wafer scale" technology, whereby they utilise
the silicon chip whole as opposed to slicing it up into smaller
conventional chips. The quoted capacity of the whole wafer was 100
megabits. I'm not sure if this is before or after being mapped out by
the control chip (which is printed on the wafer) that ferrets out the
unusable portion of the chip. This is not brand new stuff as "BYTE"
wrote a great article on this (1985?) by Dick Pountain. What sounded
nifty is the mention that they (Anamartic Inc. of Cupertino Ca.) were
in cohorts with Fujitsu (a large Japanese company). Perhaps with
decent enough backing they can do something good with the concept
(or at least make a buck). I wonder if this technology is directly
applicable to a laptop?..and if so???




 #32 31 05 Jul 89 01:12:17 (RECV'D)
From: Curtis Claar
To: Chris Fenn
REPLY TO #23
Subj: Cambridge cases

When I was shopping around at Kmart for my tape case, I ran into the Cambridge
bags as well. I almost bought one of those -- just to have matching names and
they did look a little neater than what I got. Unfortunately though, they
weren't $8.

[Curtis]




 #33 32 06 Jul 89 10:46:47
From: Tom Raffaele
To: All
Subj: BBS

Hello everyone from South Florida. My name is Tom Raffaele and I am a Z88er
too. I am going to be starting a board down here in Florida so look out for
it.




#36 31 07 Jul 89 09:25:39
From: Tom Raffaele
To: All
Subj: Basic Problem

Does anyone know how to convert this Basic Line into BBC Basic
10 open "R",1,F$:FIELD#1,4 AS NREC$
aNY HELP APPRECIATED!!!!
Thanks for your support.
Tommy Raffaele




 #37 34 07 Jul 89 16:43:45
From: Rick Stewart
To: All
SEE ALSO #56
Subj: Copy and Paste

Ive had my Z88 for just 2 days and have one big question.. is it true that you
can not copy and paste between documents? or I am I missing something in this
.... manual. Any Help would be appreciated. Nice Board Phil, Thanks.




 #38 32 08 Jul 89 16:28:26 (RECV'D)
From: George Bond
To: Len Rubin
REPLY TO #24
Subj: on-line services/BIX

BIX is by far the best of the services (OK, I'm prejudiced -- I'm the
executive editor of the BYTE Information Exchange). None of the commercial
services that I know of offers anything resembling real support for Z88s. This
is the place for that. GEnie has an area for Z88 talk, but I'd hate to have to
rely on that for support. We don't have any formal Z88 area on BIX, but there
are a few users there: Ezra Shapiro, Larry Loeb, Jerry Pournelle, and me, at
least.xD

The other stuff on BIX ranges from APL to ZenithxD computers, neural networks,
hypertext, current events, international regional conferences (Switzerland,
Britain, Germany, etc., and Bay Area, Los Angeles, Boston, etc.),
telecommunications, files for downloading, real-time chat, super
science-fiction and writers conferences, dozens of vendors doing official
support of their products....

We also have great pricing. Since BIX is the electronic component of BYTE
magazine, we sell it like a magazine. A three-month subscription costs $39
(actually, it's a one-year sub for $156 billed in 4 quarterly installments).
That gives you unlimited access to BIX, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. It
includes everything but your phone charges. If you dial directly into our
Boston computer (617-861-9767), your only phone charge comes from the
telephone company. If you use Tymnet to get to us, we'll bill you $2/hour for
evening, weekend and holiday use, $8/hour for business-day use. Or we can
provide unlimited "off-peak" Tymnet for $15 a month. Tymnet defines "off-peak"
as being 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. weekdays, all day weekends, and all day major
holidays. Tymnet claims to be a local phone call for 85% of the phones in the
U.S.

If you have questions, give me a call at work, 800-227-2983. I usually around
from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Eastern.




 #39 31 08 Jul 89 17:21:29
From: Gerald Lindsay
To: All
Subj: Z-88 BBS

I'm in the process of setting up (hopefully) a BBS for the Z-88, and would
appreciate it if you have authored a piece of software, if you would leave me
a message giving me permission to post it on my board once it is up. The board
will be located in Centreville VA ( a D.C. suburb and Persuitable), and will
be up except when I need the PC for other purposes (it has its own phone line
already). I will leave the number on this BBS and Genie once it is up, as a
matter of fact the Docs for Wildcat just finished printing. Please leave me a
message whether yes or no, but please do call the BBS regardless of your
answer (it has nothing to do with access to the BBS, it will be open to all).
Thanks for your time and consideration, and if you know any other BBS's that
support the Z-88 leave that as well and I'll add it to a bulletin (actually I
don't even have a bulletin yet). Thanks again.

*[+|> Gerald <|+]*




 #40 30 08 Jul 89 18:54:28 (RECV'D)
From: Chuck Platt
To: Sysop
SEE ALSO #42
Subj: z88com

Phil
I have tried to get Z88COM.BAS to run but have a problem. Program
starts to run then stops at line 220 with "end of file" message. What's
the problem?
Chuck platt




 #42 37 08 Jul 89 19:47:20 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Chuck Platt
REPLY TO #40
Subj: z88com

PHONE.LOG file is bad. Try a new one.




 #44 41 09 Jul 89 08:42:36
From: Mark Stueber
To: All
Subj: Z88 PRICE BREAK

SHARP'S will sell the Z88 for $398 to anyone that says that they saw this
price on the Z88 bulletin board. (804) 730-9697. P.O.box 326,
Mechanicsville, Va. 23111.




 #45 24 13 Jul 89 03:48:31
From: Tim Woods
To: All
Subj: free offer

Please read message #96 in the Club Message Base 3. By leaving your mailing
address, you can receive a free sample issue of the Pipeline newsletter and
info packet. No obligation to join or subscribe.




 #46 33 14 Jul 89 11:11:28
From: Chuck Platt
To: All
SEE ALSO #47
Subj: eprom erasing

Anybody out there got an eprom erasing service for us "po folks" who aint
got none? I've got a 32k that needs it.
Is ther perhaps an easy way to do it?
Chuck




 #47 33 14 Jul 89 18:51:49 (RECV'D)
From: Gerald Lindsay
To: Chuck Platt
REPLY TO #46 SEE ALSO #48
Subj: EPROM Eraser

I'm new to this, but the EPROM erasers are just UV light, perhaps a long
enough exposure to sunlight will do it for you. Worth a try, and its free,
right?




 #48 33 15 Jul 89 04:51:41 (RECV'D)
From: Victor Roberts
To: Chuck Platt
REPLY TO #47 SEE ALSO #49
Subj: EPROM erasing

A few months ago I mentioned that I would be willing to erase eproms
mailed to me if you included return postage. I am still willing. However, I am
on the east coast (upstate NY) and you may be able to find someone else closer
to your home if you are in sunny California, as most people on this board seem
to be.

Leave me a note here if you would like me to erase you eprom. I will then
leave my address and phone number.

Vic




 #49 37 15 Jul 89 04:57:38 (RECV'D)
From: Victor Roberts
To: Gerald Lindsay
REPLY TO #48 SEE ALSO #51
Subj: EPROM erasing with sunlight

If anyone does try sunlight, please be sure to let us know how it works. Also,
there is a program on mine in AREA 1 called EPCHK.CLI which you can use to
see if all the bits in the EPROM have actually been erased after exposure to
UV light.

Since EPROMS with commercial programs (like PC BIOS) are delivered with the
erasing window covered by a piece of paper, I assume that normal daylight, or
even normal light from fluorescent lamps will eventually erase an EPROM. The
question is, how long does it take?

Vic




 #50 33 15 Jul 89 07:26:28 (RECV'D)
From: Gerald Lindsay
To: Victor Roberts
SEE ALSO #52
Subj: EPROM erasing

Well I'm waiting for my 88 still, so I can't test this myself right now,but I
would hazzard leaving it on a window sill for a couple of days would do it on
clear days. Once I get mine, I'll fill an EPROM and set it on the sill and
check it every 24 hrs to see if its complete. Won't be difinitive but should
give a ballpark figure.

*[+|> Gerald <|+]*




 #51 32 15 Jul 89 15:52:56 (RECV'D)
From: Chuck Platt
To: Victor Roberts
REPLY TO #49 SEE ALSO #57
Subj: eproms

Vic
Thanks for the offer. I may just take you up on that if, as you say, there
isn't anyone here who can do it.
Chuck




 #52 28 16 Jul 89 05:13:11 (RECV'D)
From: Victor Roberts
To: Gerald Lindsay
REPLY TO #50
Subj: EPROM erasing

If you do decide to leave the EPROM on a window sill to use sun light to erase
your data, I believe the window better be _open_. The EPROM is erased with UV
light, and normal glass absorbs most of the UV from the sun. The small window
on the EPROM is probably made of quartz, which transmits UV. In addition, the
lamp in the EPROM eraser is made of either quartz or a special kind of glass
designed to transmit UV. That is why you can not use a normal fluorescent lamp
to erase the EPROM.

I did leave one of my EPROMs outside yesterday for about 1 hour in bright sun
light. This was a very short test, but nothing happened. I was getting
concerned about the effect of the heat on the other electronics. (The sun puts
out lots of infared in addition to UV.) But, perhaps I am being too
conservative here, and the sun would be a find eraser.

Vic




 #54 30 16 Jul 89 13:42:53
From: Richard Haw
To: All
SEE ALSO #55
Subj: eproms

To those concerned, according to the specs I got with my eprom eraser, the
required exposure to erase an eprom using solar radiation is from around 4 to
30 hours (depending on eprom sensitivity), IF you don't have an atmosphere,
which fortunately for us humans we do. Ozone absorbs pretty well in that band,
you will probably grow old waiting for
the sun to erase an eprom on the planets surface. The purchase of an eraser is
well worth it if you use them for file storage. I got a little one for 40
dollars which works great, about 5 minutes erase time. (Had to grind the
plastic case a little to get it to take Z88 eproms though). Richard




 #55 28 16 Jul 89 19:27:16 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Richard Haw
REPLY TO #54
Subj: Eproms

Gee -- maybe we could send a bunch up in a high altitude balloon to get above
the atmosphere. Nahh...guess it would be to chancy; where would the balloon
come down??

Phil




 #56 33 16 Jul 89 21:47:44 (RECV'D)
From: Len Rubin
To: Rick Stewart
REPLY TO #37 SEE ALSO #95
Subj: "cut" and "paste"

I can't believe that amidst all this silly talk of solar eprom erasing
no one bothered to answer your simple and earnest inquiry. I shall
then do it forthwith!

The method is as follows:
1.While in first document select text to be "cut" by delineating a
"block" ("<>Z" selects begining and end of "block" (<>=diamond key))

2.Once you have thus marked a block of text (it will appear in "reverse
video" on the screen) type "<>FS", give the block a teoay ( use
"bloc") then move down to the "Save marked block" option, and "Y", n i
ETR.
You have just "cut".
To "paste":

1. In second document, move cursor to the place where you wish to "paste"
the text from the first document

2. Type "<>FL", and the name of your block, (In my case, "bloc") then
move
down to "Insert at slot" option and type "Y", and hit "ENTER"

You have now "pasted".

You should now go to the Filer ("[]F" and position the cursor on the
temporaary
file you created for your block while you were moving it ("bo"hi "ENTER", thus
"selecting" it, andte oeoe ote"OMNS ito the left, and sEtr""a h rmt n hnECp ak
into your document--you're done! I know ti l onscnoue,epcal compared to the
Mc u fe wiei' l eodntr adfs)

Hope this helps.

-LBR




 #57 35 16 Jul 89 21:49:55
From: Len Rubin
To: Chuck Platt
REPLY TO #51
Subj: EPROM erasing

I know I'm a bit late in entering the fray, but I have a large-capacity
EPROM blaster, and would be happy to erase EPROMs sent to me with
return postage (for free, unless I am deluged with them--very unlikely!

My address is: Len Rubin
325 Park View Terrace #18
Oakland, CA 94610

-LBR




 #58 30 17 Jul 89 18:39:18 (RECV'D)
From: Phill Jackson
To: Len Rubin
REPLY TO #3 SEE ALSO #59
Subj: Worldport

Len,
I just got a worldport 2400 but can't get the terminal program to
communicate with it. Am I missing some secret? The modem cable I use seems
to work with a Avatex 2400 but gets no response to the worldport.
Any advice appreciated.
Phill Jackson




 #59 29 17 Jul 89 19:38:05 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Phill Jackson
REPLY TO #58 SEE ALSO #61
Subj: Z88 with Mac Printers

Seems to me you use your Z88 with a Mac, Phill. A user here would like to
know what kind of cable is needed for Z88 to Imagewriter. Can you upload a
message (or file) with that info.

Uhh..but anyone else who can should feel free to do so!!!

Phil




 #61 28 18 Jul 89 18:48:36 (RECV'D)
From: Victor Roberts
To: Phill Jackson
REPLY TO #59 SEE ALSO #62
Subj: Worldport

I don't know anything about the Worldport 2400, but I am using the Worldport
1200 with my Z88 and a "standard" modem cable, the one supplied by Cambridge.
A few months ago I put a file called serial.inf into this bbs (Area 2 I think)
which has details on this cable and others that work with the Worldport 1200.

Vic




 #62 27 19 Jul 89 16:04:43 (RECV'D)
From: Phill Jackson
To: Sysop
REPLY TO #61 SEE ALSO #63
Subj: Imagewriter

Phil
I haven't used the Z88 to drive an Imagewriter yet, but I think that the
cable would be pretty simple. The Imagewriter is configured as a null moded
device. So rig a cable that would connect the serial output of the z88 to the
input of the Imagewriter, and the input of the z88 to the output of the
Imagewriter. The last connection would be the signal grounds of both devices
straight across. Unfortunately, I don't currently have an imagewriter or
manual, so can't tell you which of the pins on the Mini-Din 8 pin connector on
the Imagewriter are which.
I'm about to be on the road for a while; wish I could have found out how to
make the Worldport work with my Z88. Will have to drag along the Toshiba to
be able to telecommunicate the next month.
Bye,
Phill




 #63 27 19 Jul 89 16:11:31 (RECV'D)
From: Phill Jackson
To: Victor Roberts
REPLY TO #62 SEE ALSO #64
Subj: Cable

Victor,
I ordered a modem cable from Cambridge but it was backordered. I do build
my own cables from time to time and have one that worked quite well with
another modem. Why not with the Worldport I don't know. I'm just too short
of time now to make one, but will download your file for use when I get home
again.
Thanks,




 #64 27 19 Jul 89 17:25:15
From: Sysop
To: Phill Jackson
REPLY TO #63
Subj: W'Port cable

The modem cable I use with my WorldPort is documented in a file in Area 2 --
probably MODEM.INF. The one I used with my Hayes needed some augmenting to
work with the WP -- but all is OK now.

Phil




 #65 27 19 Jul 89 17:27:28
From: Sysop
To: Harvey Michels
Subj: Download Problem

If you are downloading into a Z88 using Z88COM and you have a hangeup in block
15, it generally means you have Xon/Xoff set to 'on' in the Panel. Go there
([]S) and turn it off. If this is not the issue, leave a more detailed
message Re software you are using, etc.

Phil




 #66 28 19 Jul 89 21:47:29
From: Robert Morgan
To: All
Subj: Letter to Dvorak's latest blast

Re: PC Magazine, August 89

Dear John Dvorak,

Perhaps you could tell me just what it is that makes a Z80 an 8 bit
processor, whereas the 8088 is a 16 bit processor. They both have 16
bit wide registers. They both address a linear 64K of memory. The only
difference between the two is that the 8088 actually uses 20 bits (not
16) for its address lines, and lets you map your four 64K pages within
the 1024K space (and the 8088 has hardware multiply and divide). How do
you get an 8 bit Z80 out of all of this and still call an 8088 16 bit?

Regarding the Z88. My main base is a 20mhz 386, and I used to haul
around a T1200. I've trashed the T1200 in exchange for a Z88. If the
Z88 is such an oddball, why is the software built into the machine's
ROMs more useful than anything I had in my DOS portable? How many
laptops do you know of that cost about $700, and allow you to have as
many concurrent sessions of a word processor running as memory allows?
The Z88 supports 1.5M of memory invisibly. Can you say the same about a
DOS machine? And this memory doesn't get absorbed just by your
program's code (since its in ROM). I could use a twelve pound DOS
laptop with something like Sidekick Plus and still not have the
convenience I have in this Z88. It won't ever run Autocad or Pagemaker,
but that is not what its made for. It is ideal for someone who needs to
write on the go. Maybe even a columnist like yourself.

Of course, I fully expect you to write this letter off as one of the
sick people belonging in the weird underground. I do wish you would try
something new and different instead of rearing away and loudly
condemning it. You might be pleasantly surprised.

Yours truly, etc.

Thanks for the great review, John. Too bad our favourite columnists
don't actually *use* the machines they dump all over.




 #67 25 20 Jul 89 21:02:04
From: Sysop
To: All
Subj: Outliner for Z88

I now have THINKz from Wordmongers in the U.K. in my Z88. $89.95 from Sharp's
in VA, on a 32K ROM. It seems a bit UKaddian (i.e., different) when compared
to the standard PC outliners, but it seems quite servicable.

If you've ever used THINK.IT in a Model 100 (hasn't everyone!!!), it operates
much as in the View 2 mode of that program. Onscreen, you see the headings of
the level you are in, and above them the heading they are under in bold face
-- or the title heading if you are at the top level. You can link a series of
headings so that you can easily move around related areas of the outline. And
you can mark a heading and move it -- with all subordinate headings taken
along for the ride.

Output can be to a printer, to a plain-text Pipedream file, or to a file
compatible with Lotus Agenda. No numbers/lettering is provided -- but a
simple utility program can be written to take care of that (I have one I did
in GW-Basic for Ready! which may be adaptable).

So far I like it. But it is a very early version (v1.00 with manual V0.02),
and could have bugs; in fact, there is a "limited testing" caveat in this
draft of the manual. Hmmmm...guess that makes me a paying (vs. paid) Beta
Tester.

No matter. With SpellMaster (w/QuickEdit), THINKz and Z88COM the Z88 will
take care of my most important needs when traveling. If you are an Outliner
Freak (I seem to be), you will sure find it better than the Z88 alternative
programs (None!!).

Phil




 #68 28 21 Jul 89 11:28:26
From: Tom Johnson
To: All
Subj: 4 sale

Although this is probably not the right
board to try and sell this:

FOR SALE
--------------

For anyone who needs an ms-dos pc.
I have a two week old Tandy 1400 LT
Laptop pc, 100% IBM Compatible. With
dual 3 1/2" 760K drives, 768K ram, serial
port, parallel port, external monitor and
drive ports, internal 1200 baud modem
and $$thousands in software. Alos
included is a TTXPress laptop printer
only 2 lbs, yet full feature, cable, and
4 rolls of paper.
The computer is still under warantee and
will arrive with all origional packaging
and manuals.
I forgot to mention, the PC also has
the a/c adaptor and removable nicad battery
pack.
price--only $1,000.00 delivered.
(i'll sell the pc without the printer
for $950.00
If interested, leave me a message.
thanks




 #69 29 21 Jul 89 17:06:26
From: Michael Katz
To: Phil Wheeler
SEE ALSO #70
Subj: downloading program files

Is it possible to download program files directly from this Bulletin Board to
my Zenith 183 and then use pclink to move them to the Z88? I can't seem to get
the Terminal Program working on the Z88. Do I need a special cable/modem? I
tried with the Worldport 1200 modem and cable I use on the Zenith, but I
couldn't type anything or get the cursor on the Z88 screen in Terminal mode to
work.
Also, hellow from Mike Nugent.
Thanks.




 #70 28 22 Jul 89 06:07:02
From: Sysop
To: Michael Katz
REPLY TO #69 SEE ALSO #71
Subj: Modem Cables

Michael, it is quite possible to do what you mention; I do it all the time.

Yes, you do need a different cable. The pin-outs on the Z88 are unique and
require a Z88-peculiar cable. Go to file area #2 and get the file
Z88-MDM.INF. It describes the cable I use with my Z88 and WorldPort.

Phil




 #71 30 22 Jul 89 06:09:40
From: Sysop
To: Michael Katz
REPLY TO #70 SEE ALSO #72
Subj: Pile*Line

While this BBS is associated with Club Z88, I am not a functionary of the
Club. All enquiries about Pipe*line (the newsletter), memberships, etc.
should be left as messages in Msg Area 3. In particular, messages Private to
Sysop can be read only by me and they will not
see them.

Phil




 #72 29 22 Jul 89 12:36:57 (RECV'D)
From: Guy Smith
To: Sysop
REPLY TO #71 SEE ALSO #74
Subj: Z88's at $299

I have yet to substantiate it, but according to two different messages left on
the Cambrdidge z88 Board on GEnie, Home Shopping Network (cable TV) has Z88
for either $295.00 or $299 ( I can't remember which).
It is the cheapest i've heard of for Zeds
Anybody know if this is true?




#74 29 22 Jul 89 18:07:56
From: Sysop
To: Guy Smith
REPLY TO #72
Subj: Cheap Z88's

Yes, we've heard that one before. Question is WHEN! Fist time was about 4
months ago. Problem is that by the time you hear about it, they are usually
gone. HSC/HSN are real-time call-in deals.

Phil



 #76 27 22 Jul 89 22:31:11
From: Sysop
To: All
Subj: Review of ThinkZ

There is now a mini-review of THINKz, the Z88 oultiner, in File Area 2.

Phil




 #77 25 23 Jul 89 05:07:59
From: Dave Bennett
To: All
SEE ALSO #78
Subj: Z88 - QL

I am trying to get the Z88 to talk to my QL with xmodem in both directions. I
am using Z88COM on the Z88 and either Q_Link or QL52 on the QL. Both programs
have xmodem. Here is the QL RS232 pinout. It is a female DB9 like the Z88:
SER2: 1 - Gnd, 2 - Txd, 3 - Rxd, 4 - DTR, 5 - CTS, 6 to 8 - Gnd, 9 - + 12
volts. This is my existing cable: First no. is Z88, second is QL: 2 -- 3, 3 --
2, 4 -- 5, 5 -- 4, 7 -- 7, 8 -- 4. Xmodem works from the Z88 to the QL but not
from the QL to the Z88. Ascii text transfers work in both directions. I
bought the commercial QL - Z88 transfer program. I tested the included cable
as well. Xmodem does not work in either direction with it. But the software
does work nicely for ascii transfers. SER1 is a DCE and SER2 is a DTE on the
QL.




#78 24 23 Jul 89 07:50:04 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Dave Bennett
REPLY TO #77
Subj: QL to Z88

Dave, since transfers fromn the Z88 to QL work, the QL xmodem must support
CheckSum. But there may be an issue going the other way. Possibly the QL
sender assumes CRC and is not toggling out of that to Checksum as needed for
all Z88 xmodem programs to date. The sender should wathch for C's and NAK's
from the receiver. If the first three characters are not C's (meaning
receiver wants CRC) then sender should go Checksum.

Zterm for the Z88, from U.K., does not do this right -- and I cannot upload to
Compuserve with it as a result. This may be the issue. Could be the U.K.'ers
do a different set of protocols.

See if you can Force Checksum at the QL end.

Phil




 #80 29 23 Jul 89 13:46:34
From: Bryant Patten
To: All
SEE ALSO #85
Subj: Screen Capture CLI

Hello,
I have written a CLI file to logon to Compuserve using Z88Com which
automatically sets all the Status comm. parameters correctly and then logs me
on. The only problem is I always forget to turn on the screen capture mode
with the [] + S command. When I try to integrate this keystroke sequence
into the CLI file, it fails. Any ideas? Doing it manually seems to start a
CLI process since CLI appears in the OZ area. But if a CLI file is running,
it stops. Hmmm.





 #83 27 24 Jul 89 13:40:22
From: Shapiro Ezra
To: All
Subj: Z-88 and accessories for sale

Lotsa stuff for sale:
ITEM: rough cost to me:
Z-88 450.00
2 128k RAMs 190.00
2 128K EPROMS (unused) 190.00
Serial cable 20.00
Parallel cable/converter 65.00
Case 30.00

I'll sell the whole load to anyone here for $725/obo, or make me an offer for
individual items. I've also got a Tandy Model 100 w/32k and two printers
(Apple ImageWriter II with AppleTalk card, Okidata 192 with cut-sheet feeder),
but I figure the Z-88 items are the ones to mention here. Odd circumstances
force the sale; everything is in top condition.
--Ezra Shapiro
(213) 463-2050 (machine if I'm not around)
Hollywood




 #84 27 24 Jul 89 16:15:10
From: David Zundel
To: All
Subj: Z88 users in Portland OR

Is there anyone else in Portland, OR using the Z88 and would any of you be
interested in some kind of group?
I can be contacted at Portland phone # (503) 274-0162 voice only or leave a
message here.
David Z.




 #85 12 28 Jul 89 19:30:01 (RECV'D)
From: Curtis Claar
To: Bryant Patten
REPLY TO #80
Subj: CLI probs

My only guess would be to include #+S at the top of your CLI
and make sure it's BEFORE you type .J which I assume you're also doing.

Hope this helps, doubt it will. Give us more details.

[Curtis]




 #86 15 28 Jul 89 19:36:44 (RECV'D)
From: Curtis Claar
To: Dave Bennett
Subj: QL/Z88

I haven't spent ANY time on QL<-->Z88 lately. Have you tried all the
Checksum/CRC/etc/etc options in all the QL comm programs.

I couldn't even write a transfer program that worked using the protocol that
was "detailed" in the Z88 users guide. But I could modem you or mail you what
I have so you could see what's going wrong. It might help with our Xmodem
problems, but hhen it might just confuse things.

[Curtis]




 #87 20 28 Jul 89 19:39:20 (RECV'D)
From: Curtis Claar
To: Sysop
SEE ALSO #91
Subj: cover

I talked to Sharp's today and he said the covers were 15.95. What a deal. I
didn't ask him, though, if they went all the way around or just cover the
front. Have you gotten yours yet? How does it work and how do you like it?

[Curtis]




 #88 19 29 Jul 89 00:26:48
From: David Zundel
To: Mo Budlong
SEE ALSO #89
Subj: FORTH

Mo,
There hasn't been much talk of FORTH on the board for a while but I, for one,
am definitely interested. Could you please inform us of the status of this
possiblity.
Thanks, Davidz




 #91 18 29 Jul 89 01:07:41 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Curtis Claar
REPLY TO #87 SEE ALSO #101
Subj: Covers

They don't cover the entire computer, just the top and down the sides. they
do not slip off easily (according to Mark) and do protect the screen and the
two shift keys (no accidental turn on). I should be gettiing one by Monday
via UPS, so I will let you know.

Phil




 #92 20 29 Jul 89 01:13:38 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: David Zundel
Subj: PC Pursuit

Don't use it myself, but it is a cheaper way to access distant systems. and I
believe it would save $$$ in coming here. I will see if I can find some files
on the subject and put them in Area 5 (Misc). May be a few days, though.

Phil




 #93 15 29 Jul 89 01:15:28 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: David Zundel
Subj: RAM Space

I understand there is one such in the library of the U.K. users group. Don't
have it in this system, though.

Phil




 #94 14 29 Jul 89 13:41:19
From: Sysop
To: All
Subj: New Richard Haw Offerings

A new version of Richard Haw's Z88 archiver (ZFU.BAS) is available for
download in File Area 1, along with 16 archives produced with it. Note that
some duplicate files already available in non-ZFU form.

Thanks, Richard!!

Phil




 #95 14 30 Jul 89 00:16:45 (RECV'D)
From: Rick Stewart
To: Len Rubin
REPLY TO #56 SEE ALSO #96
Subj: Thanks

Thanks very much for the help!



#98 16 30 Jul 89 04:24:12
From: David Zundel
To: All
SEE ALSO #107
Subj: CLI

Does anyone know of a way to force CLI to create a new instance of PipeDream
or BASIC when there are already suspended instances instead of entering one of
those suspended instances (as #P and #B do)? Also does anyone know of an
elegant way for CLI to exit from Filer instead of going to Index (or such) and
exiting (read escaping) from there?
Thanks, Davidz




 #99 16 30 Jul 89 04:35:01 (RECV'D)
From: David Zundel
To: Sysop
SEE ALSO #108
Subj: The BBS

Phil,
Do us a favor? Please make the directories of the file areas available as
files so we can download them instead of having to do numerous screen captures.
Thanks, Davidz




 #100 18 30 Jul 89 07:40:18
From: Dave Bennett
To: All
SEE ALSO #103
Subj: Z88 - QL

The Q_Link terminal program has both CRC and Checksum and you can switch
between the two. Right now I am using the commercial transfer program which
seems to work well for ascii transfers. I found that using xmodem and a PC at
work is quite a bit faster though. I will continue to try Z88 - QL xmodem.
Dave




 #101 11 31 Jul 89 01:32:57 (RECV'D)
From: Curtis Claar
To: Sysop
REPLY TO #91 SEE ALSO #109
Subj: covers

By "not slipping off easily" do you mean they're a pain in the rump or do you
mean it's just what the doctor ordered in that they don't fall off in the
briefcase and all that?

[Curtis]




 #103 13 31 Jul 89 01:40:55 (RECV'D)
From: Curtis Claar
To: Dave Bennett
REPLY TO #100
Subj: QL--Z**

Oopie... QL--Z88

I've been simply printing to QLINK for my ASCII files. I set it up at 9600
baud and just hook the cable you taught me how to make up between the two. I
capture it with QLINK. Save it in ram disk. Switch to quill with taskmaster
and import. Quick and fairly painless, but it does omit the bold, underline,
and stuff. I experimented with customizing a printer driver to send whatever
Quill needs for these. I got it to work once -- almost. But I think Quill only
import $20 or above. Then I figured if I dabbled any more, I might end up with
a poorman's QL-LINK package. And that's not worth it with the price as low as
it is.

BUT.... aren't there some setbacks with the commecial QL-LINK? If there are,
it might just be worth coming up with an alternative. Not me though. I don't
have time or ABILITY.

Enough rambling. Maybe someday we'll get xmodem QL<---->Z88. Who knows.

[Curtis]




 #104 15 31 Jul 89 01:48:05 (RECV'D)
From: Curtis Claar
To: David Zundel
SEE ALSO #105
Subj: CLI "tricks"

David:
I believ the way to CLI into a new Basic, Pipedream, or whatever would be to:

#I~D~E For Pipedream
#I~D~D~E For BASIC
etc.
etc.

The other trick you requested, I am not sure what you meant. But I bet someone
else will have it answered before you re-ask it.

Good luck.

[Curtis]




 #105 14 31 Jul 89 02:03:35 (RECV'D)
From: David Zundel
To: Curtis Claar
REPLY TO #104 SEE ALSO #115
Subj: CLI

Thanks Curtis,
I thought about that but it won't work. Index's cursor is always where you
last left it. Thus you can bank on it being at the top of the applications
list.
Davidz




 #107 12 31 Jul 89 06:10:53 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: David Zundel
REPLY TO #98
Subj: CLI

That cyclic CLI bit has been a bugaboo -- like when you have Z88COM and
something else suspended. I suspect there is a way, just haven't looked very
hard. BBC Basic Ref Manual may be a good source for such info.

Phil




 #108 12 31 Jul 89 06:13:07 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: David Zundel
REPLY TO #99 SEE ALSO #124
Subj: Directories

Actually they are files, called in each area FILES.BBS. Try downloading
FILES.BBS in each area and see what happens.

Phil




 #109 11 31 Jul 89 06:14:47 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Curtis Claar
REPLY TO #101
Subj: Cover

Dunno. Should have one today and I will let you know. Reviews in U.K. have
all been very positive re the "Topper", though.

Phil




 #110 9 31 Jul 89 16:09:55
From: Rick Stewart
To: All
SEE ALSO #120
Subj: Outliner Super Rom

Can anyone tell me where you can order the Rom by WM that has the new outliner,
zterm etc. on it? Has anyone actually bought one yet?




 #111 9 31 Jul 89 16:21:58
From: Rick Stewart
To: All
SEE ALSO #121
Subj: Basic downloads

Why is it that I receive a "BAD PROGRAM" message whenever I try to load a
basic pgm downloaded from this board into the z88. Transfers fine, just wont
load into Basic. Something simple Im doing wrong for sure. Thanks




 #112 9 31 Jul 89 18:47:51
From: Gerald Lindsay
To: All
SEE ALSO #116
Subj: New BBS

New BBS for the Z-88, the ZED-88 BBS will be online starting 8/01/89 24hrs, 7
days a week, supporting 2400/1200/300/ MNP5. The number is 703-968-9438 and is
PC Persuitable through the DC node. Come on by, everyone is welcome.

*[+|> Gerald <|+]*




 #113 7 31 Jul 89 20:54:06
From: Dave Bennett
To: Curtis & Phil
SEE ALSO #117
Subj: Z88 QL

I have finally come up with Z88 - QL cable that works with xmodem in both
directions. Although it only works up to 2400 baud. 9600 baud was unreliable.
2 --- 3, 3 --- 2, 7 --- 7, Pin 4 is tied to pin 5 on both connectors. Pin 8 is
tied to pin 9 on both connectors. I was using Z88COM on the Z88 and Q_Link on
the QL. I think that this cable may also wark as Z88 - Z88 but I have not been
able to test it. I don't have access to a second Z88. Dave




#114 4 31 Jul 89 22:06:54
From: Len Rubin
To: All
Subj: "C"

Seems like a development tool that would allow a C programmer to
convert programs to run on the Z88 would create a much needed link
between the Z88 and the world of useful software out there! It could
accelerate the development of this market greatly. Does anyone know of
a version of C for the Z80 processor?--a good place to start--or is
this a dumb idea?

-LBR




 #116 4 31 Jul 89 23:36:41
From: Curtis Claar
To: Gerald Lindsay
REPLY TO #112
Subj: BBS

Great! Keep up the support and good luck on your new BBS!!!

[Curtis]




 #117 5 31 Jul 89 23:38:55
From: Curtis Claar
To: Dave Bennett
REPLY TO #113
Subj: QL Cable

Great Wow Farout Awesom Funky!!!!

Are you hooking up to Ser1? If you are, I would also guess it would work
Z88-Z88. A few months ago a guy had two Z88s and couldn't come up with a
cable. Nobody could help because everybody only had one. That's where it pays
to have a QL and a Z88 I guess. But since the Parallel I/F works on Ser1 as
well as Z88 serial, that means there at least real close.

Good job! I'll modify my QL-Z88 next chance I get.

[Curtis]




 #118 5 31 Jul 89 23:42:53
From: Curtis Claar
To: Rick Stewart
SEE ALSO #122
Subj: BAD PROGRAM

Phil, correct me if I'm wrong, but:
Rick, load the file into PD as text. gGo to the bottom and delete the bottom
line if it highlighted. Resave the file AS TEXT. Then it ***SHOULD*** okay
maybe work.

[Curtis]




 #119 5 31 Jul 89 23:53:51
From: Curtis Claar
To: Dave Bennett
Subj: Mdv_ emulation

Dave, I don't know if you've been watching the Bull Pen or not, but Mike
Carver (I think) had mentioned something about finding a use for the extra
expansion port on the RIGHT side of the QL... you know the mdv expansion port.
With disk drives hooked up who needs six more microdrives hooked up (8 total)?
Good point.

Well, I have come up with a simply marvelous use for the port. Hook it up to
the Z88 and let the Z88 "emulate" the six microdrives. No need for xmodem or
using up a serial port or anything. My guess is the speed is 19200 baud
(perfect for the Z).

:ram.0 = mdv3_
:ram.1 = mdv4_
:ram.2 = mdv5_
:ram.3 = mdv6_
:ram.- = mdv7_
:scr.0 = mdv8_ (This even sounds interesting)

Sound good so far? You wouldn't really need to even write a QL program for
this to work if the Z88 end was written right (unless you wanted to refer to
the drives as :ram.1 on the QL end instead of mdv4_).

With this you could use the fancy QL file commands (wildcards,etc.) to
transfer back and forth to the Z88). If you were to type FORMAT mdv6_ and you
had an EPROM in it, the Z** would return a Copy Protect or Damaged Medium
notice back to the QL. Arranged like this, the Z88 would "become" the solid
state disk drives that Sir Clive loves so much -- it would be a RAM drive that
would keep its memory even when the power was off, lightning fast and
everything. If somebody had a QL with no disk drives and a Z88, this would be
REAL slick.

Some things that might cause problems: microdrives hold around 220 sectors, a
512K RAM/EPROM would have to report 1024 sectors. QDOS might not appreciate
that (then consider the 1 meg RAM/EPROM/ROMs -- it would have to report 2048
sectors). Also, I assume the six additional midcrodrives would have switches
on them that would tell QDOS which is which. This would have to be
accomplished with software. Another thing is that in my QL library (a little
one I admit) I have no information on the signals on the 14-connection edge
card.

It's beyond my knowledge. So who ya gonna call?

Nuge. This looks like a job for NUGE. At least maybe he could point us in the
right direction.
This would be a hotcake seller in Britain!!!
What does everyone else think? Is this stupid? [Curtis]