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Date/TimeFromToReply ToNumberSee AlsoSubject
06 Oct 89 09:03:3Gerald LindsaySysop-12-Programming Contest
06 Oct 89 18:45:1SysopAll-13-Archived Messages
07 Oct 89 06:56:4Victor RobertsMichael Johnson-1415xmodem to/from unix
07 Oct 89 08:09:2SysopVictor Roberts1415-Unix
07 Oct 89 11:32:1SysopGlen Copeland-17-ID
07 Oct 89 18:26:0Michael JohnsonSysop-1819download success!
07 Oct 89 22:11:3SysopMichael Johnson1819-Success!
08 Oct 89 15:49:1SysopVictor Roberts-20-Club Z88 and PipeLine
08 Oct 89 22:34:0Chris FennAll-2122Laptops Comdex etc.
09 Oct 89 06:18:2SysopChris Fenn2122-Laptops
10 Oct 89 12:46:5SysopAll-23-Mod to Z88COM
11 Oct 89 01:21:4Daniel GeniniSysop-24-NEW ON Z88
13 Oct 89 12:29:2Neville CohenSysop-2736Club z88 Pipeline
17 Oct 89 16:29:4TellerClaude Schleyer-3141wp
17 Oct 89 16:44:5TellerAll-3345Hello
20 Oct 89 12:09:0SysopNeville Cohen273668Club Z88
20 Oct 89 12:12:0SysopJames Hunkins-37-Message AReas
20 Oct 89 16:55:3SysopAll-38-New Club Z88 Info
20 Oct 89 17:03:5SysopLuke Wells3940-Z88 Labels
20 Oct 89 17:22:4SysopTeller3141-WP
20 Oct 89 17:23:4SysopAll-42-Z88COM mod for Pulse dialing
21 Oct 89 12:46:4Gerald LindsayTeller334546Welcome
21 Oct 89 22:23:0Chris FennTeller454674Howdy
22 Oct 89 07:26:0Victor RobertsTeller-47-Neighbor
22 Oct 89 07:32:1Victor RobertsTeller-48-previous message
22 Oct 89 17:22:4Bruce DurocherAll-50-New Disk Drive
23 Oct 89 12:36:0SysopHoward Weaver495188Word Processor
27 Oct 89 00:06:3Andy RussellAll-5253Tandy WP-2
27 Oct 89 16:43:3Victor RobertsAndy Russell525354Tandy WP-2
27 Oct 89 17:17:1SysopVictor Roberts5354-WP-2
27 Oct 89 21:32:5Marc GiguereAll-5556PURCHASING
28 Oct 89 05:50:4Gerald LindsayMarc Giguere555658FCC Approval
28 Oct 89 09:58:1SysopMarc Giguere5658-FCC Approval
28 Oct 89 16:30:1Michael KaufmanTeller4460-Diconix
30 Oct 89 20:04:4Chris FennMarc Giguere-63-Comdex etc.
30 Oct 89 20:31:2Chris FennAll-65-Ideas?
01 Nov 89 22:37:2Curtis ClaarNeville Cohen366881time designs

ARCHIVED BBS MESSAGES -- OCTOBER 1989
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#12 32 06 Oct 89 09:03:33 (RECV'D)
From: Gerald Lindsay
To: Sysop
Subj: Programming Contest

Not going well so far, only one serio-comic entry, I'm disappointed to say the
least, but I intend to see it through. I see a lot of new people logging on
looking for entries to download, but they aren't uploading anything, so it
goes I guess. I figured someone would take interest in winning a $100 EPROM or
RAM Cartridge, or a Topper, maybe things will pick up. I've already bought the
Topper to award to the earlybird winner, and it looks like he's going to win
the Cartridge as well. Wanna cartridge the easy way? Hey you folks, these are
real prizes and will be awarded, no nonsense, no false promises. Well thanks
for listening to my woes things will pick up I'm sure!

Gerald




 #13 34 06 Oct 89 18:45:11
From: Sysop
To: All
Subj: Archived Messages

August and September messages now available for downloading (ASCII files) in
File area #5.

Phil




 #14 37 07 Oct 89 06:56:41 (RECV'D)
From: Victor Roberts
To: Michael Johnson
SEE ALSO #15
Subj: xmodem to/from unix

I tried Z-Term when I first got my Z88, but dropped it in favor of Phil's
Z88COM because his retains the VT52 terminal emulation built into the Z88,
while Z-Term does not. I have used Z88COM to transfer files to and from a SUN
360 running Unix. We are using a package called
xyzmodem, which is public domain. I see no reason why Z-Term should
notUnfortunately, I do not have Z-Term anymore to test with the SUN.

One simple problem many of us have had caused by having the Xon/Xoff option
set to YES in the PANEL......it must be OFF or else you will get hung up
around block 17 during the file transfer.

If you need more direct contact or need a copy of xyzmodem, I can be reached
as roberts@crd.ge.com on the net.

Vic




 #15 36 07 Oct 89 08:09:24 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Victor Roberts
REPLY TO #14
Subj: Unix

Thanks for the helping hand, Victor.




 #17 38 07 Oct 89 11:32:16
From: Sysop
To: Glen Copeland
Subj: ID

Well, Glen -- I'm an engineering manager in Southern California (aerospace
business). BBS operates on a Zenith Z-150 with a 30 Meg HD (MS-DOS 2.11).
Z88 is my "really portable" machine; also have a Model 100, a Toshiba T-1000
and a Toshiba T-1200HB for power applications.

Phil




 #18 33 07 Oct 89 18:26:01 (RECV'D)
From: Michael Johnson
To: Sysop
SEE ALSO #19
Subj: download success!

Thanks for all your help. Just successfully downloaded a bunch of files using
xmodem of zterm. Now onto UNIX...




#19 37 07 Oct 89 22:11:30 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Michael Johnson
REPLY TO #18
Subj: Success!

Glad to hear of your success. I assume you did read Victor's message to you
on Unix interfacing. His experience and advice are pretty solid,so that
should be of help in interfacing your Z88 with the Unix system.

Phil




 #20 39 08 Oct 89 15:49:18 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Victor Roberts
Subj: Club Z88 and PipeLine

I've seen no presence by Paul Bingham or Tim Woods for a good long time. And
the lateset issue is several months overdue. My conclusion is that they have
bit the big one. Continued support on the BBS would be a charade -- so I've
decided to close Area 3 down. If one of the principals shows up and protests,
the stuff is still there and can be retrieved. I doubt that will happen!

Phil




 #21 37 08 Oct 89 22:34:05
From: Chris Fenn
To: All
SEE ALSO #22
Subj: Laptops Comdex etc.

There has been alot of new laptop releases lately, from ZENITH
(Minisport),POQUET,ATARI,PSION,SHARP,APPLE,TANDY etc.. Many of them
sound pretty good. I still like the instant on,live environment of the
Z88 though for my "don't leave home without it" machine. The new
portable Macintosh will retain _all_ in RAM in a sleep mode (someone
noticed how the Z88 works) but you have to shell out $6-7 grand to
carry around 15 lbs. (not me). Comdex is coming up soon here in 'Vegas
and I hope to see all these new goodies and anything Cambridge may or
may not have up their sleeve.




 #22 41 09 Oct 89 06:18:21 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Chris Fenn
REPLY TO #21
Subj: Laptops

I generally agree, Chris. My latest acquisition (company paid!) is a Toshiba
1200HB. Only abt 2 hrs on batteries, due to HD and backlit screen, but I use
it as a plug-in transportable most of the time anyway. That's how I view the
Mac protable -- more of a transportable, due to the weight. But it definitely
will have a following. And its got a super LCD screen!

Best thing I've heard about (words, only) is the Psion MS-DOS lapper.
Supposed to be light and powerful -- and maybe with a reasonable price.
Things are changing!

BTW -- any contact with Tim, etal? And did you solve that problem you
mentioined in an earlier message?

Phil




 #23 39 10 Oct 89 12:46:58
From: Sysop
To: All
Subj: Mod to Z88COM

I've made a minor fix to Z88COM, in line 350. The small 'g' should be moved
over next to the big 'G'. The effect of the original error will show up only
if you go to lower cse while running Z88COM in Basic. I never do so I never
have seen it. But a user (Robert Gaylord) found it. Thanks for the find, Bob.

Z88COM.CLI, Z88COM.BAS & Z88COM23.ARC in file area 1 have been updated to
reflect this fix.

Phil




 #24 39 11 Oct 89 01:21:47 (RECV'D)
From: Daniel Genini
To: Sysop
Subj: NEW ON Z88

MY ADDRESS: 1395 ALVARADO ROAD, BERKELEY CA 94705
HI EVERYONE, 1ST TIME ON THIS BBS AND LOST! IS THERE A WAY I COULD RECEIVE
INFO ( PRINTED ) ON HOW TO NAVIGATE HERE?
AND HOW DO YOU SCROLL BACK ?
ALSO IS THERE A BOOK A NOVICE COULD UNDERSTAND ON HOW TO OPERATE THIS MACHINE,
I BOUGHT THE Z88 AS A CHEAPER ALTERNATIVE TO LAPTOPS, AND BECAUSE I OWN A
MACINTOSH. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEND FAXES FROM HOTEL ROOMS THRU COMPUSERVE,
IT'S QUITE
AWKWARD BUT POSSIBLE, I ALSO CHECK MY TELEX" MAIL BOX " WITH THE Z88
SO THE MACHINE WORKS FOR WHAT I WANT, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE OUT
OF IT AND RIGHT NOW IT'S A PAIN, CAUSE I CANT' FIND ANY HELP ON HOW TO
ORGANISE FILES. YOU KNOW THE MANUAL IS SCREWY, PLEASE HELP??
THANK YOU, DANIEL GENINI, A LA CARTE TOURS (415)548-1126
1395 ALVARADO ROAD BERKELEY CA 94705




 #27 45 13 Oct 89 12:29:27 (RECV'D)
From: Neville Cohen
To: Sysop
SEE ALSO #36
Subj: Club z88 Pipeline

Hi
this is neville cohen from london england.
I am calling you in the hope that you might help
I sent a Cheque to Club Z88 for the magazine and a follow up
letter but I have not received anything. I called their phonexD
number but got some sort of data device.
=~
do you know if the time designs are still in business ?
thanks
Neville




 #31 47 17 Oct 89 16:29:40
From: Teller
To: Claude Schleyer
SEE ALSO #41
Subj: wp

I just joined the club here. I have the same problem. I'll read the next
many messages, but if you've happened to find a PD to WP converter, I'd be
grateful for the news.
//s




 #33 43 17 Oct 89 16:44:52
From: Teller
To: All
SEE ALSO #45
Subj: Hello

Hi, gang,
I am a new visitor. My name is Teller, and I am 1/2 the comedy/(magic?)
team of Penn & Teller. I don't have a lot of problems with my new machine yet,
but do have a couple of questions for any sages in the electronic world:
1. Is there a program for translating PipeDream to WordPerfect? (
I like the fact that these are both program-names with capital letters in the
middle of the words.)
2. I am in the New York City area. Are there other users nearby?
And especially, are there Z88 dealers, repair people, etc. nearby?
3. I will be using my Z88 exclusively for words. I don't need all
the spreadsheet functions. Is there any way to turn them off permanently?
(I mean, so I don't have to turn them off every time I call up PipeDream)
cordially,
TELLER




 #36 39 20 Oct 89 12:09:06
From: Sysop
To: Neville Cohen
REPLY TO #27 SEE ALSO #68
Subj: Club Z88

Neville, I'm afraid that they are defunct! My association with Club Z88 has
been to let them use my board (and I am/was a member). But they have not been
in evidence here for a long time -- and as the Bulletin says, I have ceased
supporting them on the BBS.

But you are certainly welcome to call here any time (alas, a bit expensive!).

Phil




 #37 38 20 Oct 89 12:12:05 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: James Hunkins
Subj: Message AReas

There never were more that 3 message areas, and now there is only one.

I think you have message and file areas confused. At the main menu, select
F)iles and you will find five file areas.

Phil




 #38 34 20 Oct 89 16:55:38
From: Sysop
To: All
Subj: New Club Z88 Info

I just opened a letter from Tim Woods which arrived while I was on a business
trip to Tokyo. He says that he is still committed to publishing the
newsletter Pipe*line and that Issue No. 3 will be out shortly. He adds that
he cannot come here regularly to check Club Z88 affairs and agrees that
eliminating a separate area is the best thing to do.

Phil




 #40 33 20 Oct 89 17:03:58
From: Sysop
To: Luke Wells
REPLY TO #39
Subj: Z88 Labels

Try the program LABEL.BAS in File ARea 1. Also get LABEL.DAT, a sample data
file. Have not tried it myself, but....

Phil




 #41 36 20 Oct 89 17:22:46 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Teller
REPLY TO #31
Subj: WP

See my longish reply to Teller, just ahead of this message.

Phil




 #42 32 20 Oct 89 17:23:45
From: Sysop
To: All
Subj: Z88COM mod for Pulse dialing

Two users have pointed out to me that Z88COM as written will not autodial on a
pulse dialing system. The fix is to modify line 530, replacing "ATDT" by
"ATDP".

Thanks for the input, guys!

Phil




 #45 27 21 Oct 89 12:46:46
From: Gerald Lindsay
To: Teller
REPLY TO #33 SEE ALSO #46
Subj: Welcome

Welcome to the world of Z88 users, glad to have you on board. I would like to
extend an invitation to join us on the ZED-88 BBS in Centreville, VA ( a
suburb of Wash. DC ), which is about as close to NY as you can get support I
believe. Number is 703-968-9438 and is 24 hours/7 days a week. BTW love the
act, always try and catch it.

Gerald




 #46 24 21 Oct 89 22:23:00
From: Chris Fenn
To: Teller
REPLY TO #45 SEE ALSO #74
Subj: Howdy

Great to have you around Teller. Are you the big one that does all the
dastardly deeds?...or the poor fellow on the recieving end? I've enjoyed
your act on TV. I understand you guys perform here in 'Vegas. When's your
next visit? I'm afraid I have no answers to your questions.
PS may your data never magically vanish!

Chris




 #47 26 22 Oct 89 07:26:09
From: Victor Roberts
To: Teller
Subj: Neighbor

YOu asked about other users in NY..well I live in Saratoga county, near
Albany, NY. Just a user like you, not very close to NYC and not a dealer, but
c518-399-4410.

By the way, do you know Mark or Steve O'Donnell. both also involved in
performing arts in the city? They are wife's brothers.

Vic Roberts




 #48 31 22 Oct 89 07:32:13
From: Victor Roberts
To: Teller
Subj: previous message

Part of the previous message got lost. I had said that I could provide simple
help like erasing EPROMS and you could contact me by leaving message on this
bbs or calling at 518-399-4410.

Vic




 #50 27 22 Oct 89 17:22:49
From: Bruce Durocher
To: All
Subj: New Disk Drive

Does ayone know anything about a 3 1/2" drive being marketed in Britain
for the Z88? I was quickly paging through an English Amiga magazine and saw
the photo just as the bus pulled up. Is anyone considering importing it, and
if so, what are its advantages/disadvantages as compaired to the one now on
the market here? Thanks!




 #51 26 23 Oct 89 12:36:08 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Howard Weaver
REPLY TO #49 SEE ALSO #88
Subj: Word Processor

I prefer SpellMaster, a ROM product from the U.K. Go to file area #2 and read
the file SPELMSTR.REV for more info. It has a good spell checker and an
editor which is more civilized (e.g., can break lines by hitting Enter or join
them with BKSP -- the way you would expect). You can also mark and move
segments of a line (like just one or two words) as I recal -- haven't used
that feature in a while, tho.

Available from Sharp's in VA (see file SHARPS.PRC in File area #2 for more
info).

Phil




 #52 25 27 Oct 89 00:06:30
From: Andy Russell
To: All
SEE ALSO #53
Subj: Tandy WP-2

I just got a look at the Tandy WP-2 today, and it appears
to be a OEM version of the Z88 but with reduced function
and memory. Does not appear to have a spreadsheet or
database program and may not support much in the way of RAM.
Does anyone know anything about this machine and/or possibility
of upgrading to full z88 capability? Its on sale for $299.
Also, does anyone know of any Z88 dealers in San Diego or LA?
Many thanks.
Andy Russell




 #53 26 27 Oct 89 16:43:32 (RECV'D)
From: Victor Roberts
To: Andy Russell
REPLY TO #52 SEE ALSO #54
Subj: Tandy WP-2

I also saw the WP-2 last weekend. It has a nice keyboard, like the MOdel 100
and 102, and the size of the characters seem to be slightly larger than the
Z88, but it falls way below the Z88 in all other areas, except perhaps cost.

As far as I can tell, you are correct, there is no spreadsheet or database,
and no BASIC, so you cannot write your own applications. The maximum memory
that Tandy supports is 86K, when you add both the internal 32K RAM expansion
and an external 32K RAM card. It is not clear if the RAM cards have battery
backup, which would allow you to remove them without losing data. The WP-2
does include a wordprocessor with spelling checker and thesaurus, and seems to
include built-in support for the Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2. It weighs 3.1
pounds, 1 pound heavier than the Z88. Oh yes, it does include a terminal
program, TELCOM, which must be just like the program of the same name in the
Model 100/102.

No sale here, I am very happy with my Z88.

Vic




 #54 24 27 Oct 89 17:17:15 (RECV'D)
From: Sysop
To: Victor Roberts
REPLY TO #53
Subj: WP-2

That's my reading too, Vic. If what is needed is JUST a writing machine, then
the WP-2 may be a good deal. For many, it may well be. But it is NOT a
computer in the multiapplication sense. At $299 it is probably a good deal.
Too bad they didn't put an 80 column display in the Tandy 102 -- then it would
be more appealing, too.

I'm still whatich for the Tohiba enty into the Ultralite PC game. My guess is
that they will discontinue the T1000 and replace it with a dynamite notebook
machine. Stictly a reading of tea leaves, tho.

Phil




 #55 26 27 Oct 89 21:32:52
From: Marc Giguere
To: All
SEE ALSO #56
Subj: PURCHASING

TO ALL THOSE PURCHASING Z88 COMPUTERS PLEASE CHECK TO SEE THAT YOUR MACHINE IS
FCC APPROVED.




 #56 23 28 Oct 89 05:50:40
From: Gerald Lindsay
To: Marc Giguere
REPLY TO #55 SEE ALSO #58
Subj: FCC Approval

Hadn't heard there was a problem, are you talking about Grey Market imports,
or is there something else? I use the FCC ID on the Z88 as a way of verifying
users on my board that have Z88's and want more time on the board, no-one's
had a problem yet!





 #58 25 28 Oct 89 09:58:18
From: Sysop
To: Marc Giguere
REPLY TO #56
Subj: FCC Approval

Sounds like a red herring, Marc. I have yet to see or hear of a Z88 which is
NOT FCC approved. Perhaps some of the very early ones, but ...

In any case, FCC approval is normally done by class -- vs. testing EACH
machine (for various reasons, I have a long history of FCC association). So
even if a particular Z88 was not so approved, likely there would be no issue.
Even if there was, it's hard to imagine the "FCC Police" tracking an
individual owner down and arresting him.

Perhaps a Z88 purchased in the U.K. would not have the stamp -- and there
could even be some slight differences in circuitry. NOT likely in my opinion.
And -- how many have purchased them there?

If you are suggesting that you (i.e., Cambridge North America) have sold some
unapproved units, then the liability is yours, not the owners. And, if that
is the case, leaving a message on a BBS is an inadequate response; must
contact EACH owner and (I would guess, not a lawyer) replace there machines at
your cost. But maybe that is not the issue.

Your message says "check the machine to see if it is FCC approved". What are
you suggesting folks do if it is not?

Phil




 #60 26 28 Oct 89 16:30:16
From: Michael Kaufman
To: Teller
REPLY TO #44
Subj: Diconix

My dad says that he uses his for about 50-100 pages a day and that he loves
it. He says that it is great.




#63 25 30 Oct 89 20:04:40
From: Chris Fenn
To: Marc Giguere
Subj: Comdex etc.

Marc,
Will I see you at Comdex this year? My preshow booklet puts you at
Cashman field this time. I think last year you were slated for the
Riviera and after I did a few laps I found you guys had moved next to
Atari. Still gonna be at Cashman? Also, anything new this year? I know
of at least two of us Z88 die-hards who's gonna be there. Chris




 #65 24 30 Oct 89 20:31:20
From: Chris Fenn
To: All
Subj: Ideas?

Hey guys,
I've finally got my database program on my PC at work to export my
records into separate PIPEDREAM files that format the screen on the
Z88 very nicely, bold characters in the right places. What's neat is I
also programmed my database program to also make a filelist so I can
search through all the records or search and replace etc.and I can sort
them using Richard Haw's PDFLSORT.BAS. The problem is: when I do an
export I may end up with 40-50 different records in one list and my
IMPEXP88 program will recieve batches but not send them,so I would have
to individually send each file to the Z88. Any(inexpensive)ideas?
Chris
*l




 #68 20 01 Nov 89 22:37:20
From: Curtis Claar
To: Neville Cohen
REPLY TO #36 SEE ALSO #81
Subj: time designs

I believe Time Designs' phone is now answered by a BBS and they are still in
business. But this is all third or fourth generation hearsay.

[Curtis]